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u***@gmx.net
2007-06-12 08:24:02 UTC
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MUST SEE ..

Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"

Here is the download link:
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html

Enjoy :-)
chrisburp
2007-06-12 14:03:44 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)
frenchy
2007-06-12 14:08:04 UTC
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Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)>>
If they have a fatal disease or one that cost to much to treat, they
probably shuffle them off to an asylum or empty prison cell to croak,
or just put a bullet in their head and push them into a shallow
trench. So if you just have psoriasis, you're covered!
ldnayman
2007-06-12 14:11:42 UTC
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If they have a fatal disease or one that cost to much to treat, they
probably shuffle them off to an asylum or empty prison cell to croak,
or just put a bullet in their head and push them into a shallow
trench. So if you just have psoriasis, you're covered!
Yeah! And I heard they all have horns growing out of their heads and
webbed feet too!
pinballjim
2007-06-12 14:14:28 UTC
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Post by ldnayman
Yeah! And I heard they all have horns growing out of their heads and
webbed feet too!
Heh, that wouldn't be too far off from all the claims I've heard about
Cuba.

How about some of you folks actually go there? Or talk to people that
have been?

Then go visit some other islands and see what conditions are like
there. And I don't mean the sanitized resorts, I mean visit the other
99% of the island.
AKA
2007-06-12 14:33:27 UTC
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Yeah! And I heard they all have horns growing out of their heads and
webbed feet too!
Heh, that wouldn't be too far off from all the claims I've heard about
Cuba.
How about some of you folks actually go there? Or talk to people that
have been?
Then go visit some other islands and see what conditions are like
there. And I don't mean the sanitized resorts, I mean visit the other
99% of the island.
Try touring america one day and not on the main streets of most large
cities. Cuba won't look so bad if you see american poverty.
frenchy
2007-06-12 14:36:45 UTC
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Try touring america one day and not on the main streets of most large
cities. Cuba won't look so bad if you see american poverty.>>
All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
pinballjim
2007-06-12 15:03:33 UTC
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All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
Uhm.. yeah.

Cuba's real good about not stamping US passports, they've got a pretty
healthy attitude towards American tourists.
frenchy
2007-06-12 15:07:18 UTC
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All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
Uhm.. yeah.
Cuba's real good about not stamping US passports, they've got a pretty
healthy attitude towards American tourists.>>
I was talking about Cubans and their new rice cookers, not American
tourists and their wads of cash.
pinballjim
2007-06-12 15:09:31 UTC
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I was talking about Cubans and their new rice cookers, not American
tourists and their wads of cash.
Ahh.. gotcha.
Desmond and Molly Jones
2007-06-12 15:16:41 UTC
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Try touring america one day and not on the main streets of most large
cities. Cuba won't look so bad if you see american poverty.>>
All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
How come it is against the law to go there? I mean U.S. law, not Cuban.
metallik
2007-06-12 15:55:40 UTC
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How come it is against the law to go there? I mean U.S. law, not Cuban.
Because our (stupid) government can't give up the idea the embargo
will eventually work...

How do you convert one of the last communist countries to a more open
society? By cutting them off from the biggest free economy in the
world! Err.. no. It hasn't worked for 40+ years and Castro will die
before it does work. Ditch the embargo. Especially now that there
will be a change in leadership soon.. you need to be more open to them!
Abby Normal
2007-06-12 21:22:39 UTC
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On Jun 12, 8:16 am, Desmond and Molly Jones
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How come it is against the law to go there? I mean U.S. law, not Cuban.
Because unless they appease the idiots in Miami then they won't get
Fla 11 electoral votes.
ldnayman
2007-06-12 15:19:31 UTC
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Try touring america one day and not on the main streets of most large
cities. Cuba won't look so bad if you see american poverty.>>
All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
Right Frenchy...that's ALL you need to know about them. I mean, they
won't let them leave, so obviously they shoot sick people.

Besides..if they DID let them leave where do you think they'd go? It
would just be another immigrant group for you to hate.
Darth Chipotle
2007-06-12 17:58:21 UTC
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Post by frenchy
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Try touring america one day and not on the main streets of most large
cities. Cuba won't look so bad if you see american poverty.>>
All you need to know about Cuba is - they won't let you leave.
Right Frenchy...that's ALL you need to know about them. I mean, they
won't let them leave, so obviously they shoot sick people.
Besides..if they DID let them leave where do you think they'd go? It
would just be another immigrant group for you to hate.
You didn't get what he meant. In a communist dictatorship, the leaders
try to keep people from fleeing their repressive system, because deep
down, they know they have an inferior low brow system that people are
trying to leave in scores.
In a free society, like our nice capitalist system, people try to get
in and never want to leave.
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azpinlawyer
2007-06-12 14:12:50 UTC
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Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)>>
If they have a fatal disease or one that cost to much to treat, they
probably shuffle them off to an asylum or empty prison cell to croak,
or just put a bullet in their head and push them into a shallow
trench. So if you just have psoriasis, you're covered!
OK--partisan crap aside, do you think it's acceptable for a health
insurer to give bonuses to its claims personnel for denying claims?
If this goes on in the health insurance industry, shouldn't the
practice be exposed?
phoenixarcade.com
2007-06-12 15:21:33 UTC
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OK--partisan crap aside, do you think it's acceptable for a health
insurer to give bonuses to its claims personnel for denying claims?
If this goes on in the health insurance industry, shouldn't the
practice be exposed?
kinda like you representing a client who sends out tons of c&d's for
stuff he doesnt have legal claim to?
azpinlawyer
2007-06-12 15:28:21 UTC
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OK--partisan crap aside, do you think it's acceptable for a health
insurer to give bonuses to its claims personnel for denying claims?
If this goes on in the health insurance industry, shouldn't the
practice be exposed?
kinda like you representing a client who sends out tons of c&d's for
stuff he doesnt have legal claim to?
When have I sent out a C&D with respect to something Wayne has no
claim to? Fucking let it go, Darrin!
metallik
2007-06-12 15:58:38 UTC
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kinda like you representing a client who sends out tons of c&d's for
stuff he doesnt have legal claim to?
When have I sent out a C&D with respect to something Wayne has no
claim to? Fucking let it go, Darrin!
I heard rumors there was some C&D sabre-rattling going on towards the
BBB project by yours truly. Now that the games are safely delivered,
got any comments on that? :p
Rondogg
2007-06-12 16:28:53 UTC
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kinda like you representing a client who sends out tons of c&d's for
stuff he doesnt have legal claim to?
When have I sent out a C&D with respect to something Wayne has no
claim to? Fucking let it go, Darrin!
I heard rumors there was some C&D sabre-rattling going on towards the
BBB project by yours truly. Now that the games are safely delivered,
got any comments on that? :p
I saw a documentary about their car culture and how they keep those
40's and 50's cars going without any new parts. Many of them have
lawnmower engines! Fascinating stuff.

I wonder if they have any old pinball machines kicking around?

Ron
m***@pacbell.net
2007-06-12 16:34:17 UTC
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I'm sure Cuba still has some pinballs around, but which ones, I
couldn't say.

As far as Cuba, as mentioned in the film "Sicko", Moore's point was
that the "Terrorists" that are being held in Gitmo, which is in Cuba,
receive free health care, while our citizen's do not. Our health care
rating worldwide is just below Slovenia, and just above Cuba. And for
your information, the biggest cause of Bankruptcy in this country, is
the cost of being ill. Sad.

Has any been to Cuba? And have you seen any pinballs?
Highlandish
2007-06-12 21:12:21 UTC
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Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that
it's a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come
here)>>
If they have a fatal disease or one that cost to much to treat, they
probably shuffle them off to an asylum or empty prison cell to croak,
or just put a bullet in their head and push them into a shallow
trench. So if you just have psoriasis, you're covered!
well we saw some boat people get air lifted to safety on "HOUSE MD" and Hugh
Laurie cured them.
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P***@gmail.com
2007-06-16 03:05:50 UTC
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Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)>>
If they have a fatal disease or one that cost to much to treat, they
probably shuffle them off to an asylum or empty prison cell to croak,
or just put a bullet in their head and push them into a shallow
trench. So if you just have psoriasis, you're covered!
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
u***@gmx.net
2007-06-29 09:21:11 UTC
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Re: DOWNLOAD SiCKO (New Michael Moore Movie!)
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Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the ...
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
It's much much worse than that, in the US of Amnesia 18,000 die yearly
for lack of health-care. Can you imagine the sorrow and pain? In
France, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy etc etc .. that
would be manslaughter and the courts would have to prosecute. But I
guess unprofitable human life is cheap for US-Americans. They still
vote for the bought politicians.

Anyway, it's free to download:
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html
(new download locations may appear soon!)
sf
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Post by chrisburp
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the ...
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
It's much much worse than that, in the US of Amnesia 18,000 die yearly
for lack of health-care. Can you imagine the sorrow and pain? In
France, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy etc etc .. that
would be manslaughter and the courts would have to prosecute. But I
guess unprofitable human life is cheap for US-Americans. They still
vote for the bought politicians.
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html
(new download locations may appear soon!)
What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.

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2015-11-14 05:21:52 UTC
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Post by chrisburp
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the ...
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
It's much much worse than that, in the US of Amnesia 18,000 die yearly
for lack of health-care. Can you imagine the sorrow and pain? In
France, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy etc etc .. that
would be manslaughter and the courts would have to prosecute. But I
guess unprofitable human life is cheap for US-Americans. They still
vote for the bought politicians.
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html
(new download locations may appear soon!)
What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Cuba

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lamrani/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968.html


Socialized AND using Big Pharma in conjunction with preventive care,
and NO homeopathic bullshit.

NEVER thought I'd hear Carole espousing THAT model!!
el pie de Onate
2015-11-14 05:39:35 UTC
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Post by chrisburp
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the ...
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
It's much much worse than that, in the US of Amnesia 18,000 die yearly
for lack of health-care. Can you imagine the sorrow and pain? In
France, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy etc etc .. that
would be manslaughter and the courts would have to prosecute. But I
guess unprofitable human life is cheap for US-Americans. They still
vote for the bought politicians.
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html
(new download locations may appear soon!)
What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Cuba
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lamrani/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968.html
Socialized AND using Big Pharma in conjunction with preventive care,
and NO homeopathic bullshit.
NEVER thought I'd hear Carole espousing THAT model!!
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
Clay
2015-11-14 11:01:40 UTC
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Post by chrisburp
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the ...
Frenchy, why don't you watch the film? It's obvious from your
statement that you haven't.You can just download it for free, dude, M.
Moore won't get a dime of your beautiful money. At any rate, the trip
to cuba was a little film-maker's trick called "irony". It was used to
point out how people who couldn't get health care in our wonderful
health care system in the USA were able to go to a country that can
only afford rusty instruments and cockroaches, and get medical
treatment. We are just one place up from embargoed Cuba on that chart
rating the health of the people in our respective nations. Is that
where you want us to be? You do, right? What are you, some rich HMO
executive with blood on your hands? If Jeffrey Skilling can do time
for stealing money, these people should do time for killing people.
It's much much worse than that, in the US of Amnesia 18,000 die yearly
for lack of health-care. Can you imagine the sorrow and pain? In
France, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Italy etc etc .. that
would be manslaughter and the courts would have to prosecute. But I
guess unprofitable human life is cheap for US-Americans. They still
vote for the bought politicians.
http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael.html
(new download locations may appear soon!)
What on earth are you two nattering about now? This is the perfect
example of why groups should be moderated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Cuba
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lamrani/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968.html
Socialized AND using Big Pharma in conjunction with preventive care,
and NO homeopathic bullshit.
NEVER thought I'd hear Carole espousing THAT model!!
I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.
In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
saintfranny
2007-06-12 14:22:20 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)
Hey, good for you for blatantly posting your ignorance, especially since
you seem to have Completely Missed the Point.
do you not understand the concept of context?
do you have even one iota of what you're talking about, beyond some 2
minute clip you may have seen somewhere??
azpinlawyer
2007-06-12 14:27:30 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)
Hey, good for you for blatantly posting your ignorance, especially since
you seem to have Completely Missed the Point.
do you not understand the concept of context?
do you have even one iota of what you're talking about, beyond some 2
minute clip you may have seen somewhere??
Aren't we talking about a film here? And aren't you focused on a
different 2-minute clip of that same film (as in the one where Michael
Moore attempts to gain entrance to Guantanamo Bay)? Or maybe I
"Completely Missed the Point."
Don H
2007-06-12 19:38:11 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download
link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael..
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Enjoy :-)
Right, the movie where he raves how great Cuba's health care system
is. If you don't mind rusty instruments, cockroaches all over the
place, not enough food to eat when you get out of the hospital, and
then if you complain it's off to prison for you! Other than that it's
a paradise. (Don't know why they get on rickety boats to come here)
Hey, good for you for blatantly posting your ignorance, especially since
you seem to have Completely Missed the Point.
do you not understand the concept of context?
do you have even one iota of what you're talking about, beyond some 2
minute clip you may have seen somewhere??
Aren't we talking about a film here? And aren't you focused on a
different 2-minute clip of that same film (as in the one where Michael
Moore attempts to gain entrance to Guantanamo Bay)? Or maybe I
"Completely Missed the Point."
# Latest news is that MM is afraid his movie might be banned 'cos of the
Cuban scenes - shows Cuba in a good light?
He should claim his Right under the First Amendment.
True, Cuba is a communist state, and thus run on oligarchic lines, rule
by one party, and from the top. This has its defects, but probably not much
more in real terms than modern USA which is a plutocracy with a virtual
one-party with two heads (Tweedledumbo & Tweedledonkee).
Cuba is socialist insofar as its education and medical system are good
and beneficial. Its doctors are known to give assistance overseas to
struggling Third World countries.
So, Cuba, like all nations has some good aspects, as well as bad. It is
probably better off under Castro than under his predecessor, the gangster
dictator, Battista, with his casinos, prostitution, thuggery, and rackets.
Communism is/was feared (like Terrorism is now) because the commos meant
"business" - they told the Top End of Town what to do. Social Democrats are
despised, and tolerated, as they are content to operate within the
capitalist agenda.
The 40-year sanctions imposed on Cuba by the USA is to ensure communism
fails there - cripple its economy. There! Told you communism was no good!
However, let's hope MM can show his film, and we, the people, judge it.
After all, if the USA preaches Freedom & Democracy abroad (Iraq), it should
practise it at home.
Ken Layton
2007-06-12 15:42:43 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Worthless Pile of Crap"
And what the hell does this have to do with pinball?
Michael Bourke
2007-06-12 17:37:08 UTC
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Socialism doesn't work. Communism doesn't work. Freedom works!

Progressive liberals just won't get it until this country is gone and
there's a gun to their head! What a bunch of spoiled, sniveling babies!

Mike
Darth Chipotle
2007-06-12 17:59:26 UTC
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Socialism doesn't work. Communism doesn't work. Freedom works!
Progressive liberals just won't get it until this country is gone and
there's a gun to their head! What a bunch of spoiled, sniveling babies!
Mike
Yes, but they think they are gonna be the ones with the guns......
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Abby Normal
2007-06-12 21:23:47 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
I don't think this would make a very good pinball. And fan or not, Mr.
Moore doesn't have the kind of mug anyone would want to see on a
backglass.
PT
2007-06-12 22:18:35 UTC
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I look at Michael Moore movies as an intelligence test of sorts. Much
like the Roswell thing and the 9/11 conspiracy videos.

Roswell was not an alien spacecraft, a plane did hit the Pentagon and
Michael Moore movies are nothing but lies and half-truths. If you
think otherwise then you are easily fooled.

John
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
Malcom Gillette
2007-06-13 01:50:38 UTC
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Spoken like a true Republican.
Here,Here.
Post by PT
I look at Michael Moore movies as an intelligence test of sorts. Much
like the Roswell thing and the 9/11 conspiracy videos.
Roswell was not an alien spacecraft, a plane did hit the Pentagon and
Michael Moore movies are nothing but lies and half-truths. If you
think otherwise then you are easily fooled.
John
Post by u***@gmx.net
MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download
link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
Dr. Dave
2007-06-13 03:08:31 UTC
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"Republican" has got nothing to do with it. "PT" is most likely a
fiscal conservative. (As are most of us.)
Post by Malcom Gillette
Spoken like a true Republican.
Post by PT
I look at Michael Moore movies as an intelligence test of sorts. Much
like the Roswell thing and the 9/11 conspiracy videos.
Roswell was not an alien spacecraft, a plane did hit the Pentagon and
Michael Moore movies are nothing but lies and half-truths. If you
think otherwise then you are easily fooled.
John
Post by u***@gmx.net
MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download
link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
azpinlawyer
2007-06-13 04:49:08 UTC
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I somehow acquired a reputation as a liberal. I, too, am fiscally
conservative. Social Democrat + Fiscal Republican = Libertarian.
That's me.
chatnoir
2007-06-29 09:51:03 UTC
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MUST SEE ..
Michael Moore's new film "Sicko"
Here is the download link:http://u2r2h.blogspot.com/2007/06/download-sicko-new-movie-by-michael...
Enjoy :-)
http://www.counterpunch.org/rosenthal06272007.html

Headline:

Two Models of Health Care Rationing

Sick and Sicker

By Dr. SUSAN ROSENTHAL, M.D.

Everyone knows that Canadians live longer and have lower infant
mortality rates than Americans. In Sicko, Michael Moore suggests that
a Canadian-style medical system would solve this problem.
Surprisingly, the evidence indicates that it would not.

A cross-border team of 17 researchers (including high-profile
supporters of the Canadian system) examined a variety of medical
problems, including cancer, coronary artery disease, chronic illness
and surgical procedures. With the single exception of end-stage kidney
disease, where Canadian patients fared better, they found no
consistent difference in patient outcomes between the two nations.1 As
I have argued elsewhere, the United States has the worst health
statistics in the industrialized world because it is the most unequal
society in the industrialized world.2

Although Canada's medical system does not produce generally better
patient outcomes, it is more equitable and far more economical. In
2003, the average American spent almost twice as much for medical care
as the average Canadian. Exorbitant medical bills are a constant worry
and a major cause of personal bankruptcy. Profit-taking is responsible
for the high cost of American medicine. However, the Canadian system
is also subject to market forces.

Contrary to popular belief, Canada does not have a single-payer
medical system. Government pays about 70 percent of medical costs,
including most hospital and physician care. Individuals and private
insurance companies pay the remaining 30 percent for prescription
drugs, dental and vision care, ambulance, medical devices, home care
and other services.

To contain costs, both the United States and Canada ration medical
care, but they do this in different ways. In the U.S., more than 47
million people have no medical insurance at all. The Institute of
Medicine estimates that 18,000 people die every year as a result. In
Canada, lack of access is more equitably spread across the population
in the form of long waits for assessment and treatment. We don't know
how many Canadians die while waiting for treatment, because no one is
counting the bodies.3 The Canadian model of rationing is sick, and the
American model is sicker because it unfairly discriminates against
those who cannot pay. Neither is good enough. Medical care is a human
right and should not be rationed at all.

Disgust with the American medical system has built support for HR 676--
The United States National Health Insurance Act--a single-payer system
where medical care would be publicly financed and privately delivered.
Winning HR 676 would be a tremendous victory. However, the Canadian
experience shows that private delivery of medical care opens the door
to parasitical profit-taking.


The Canadian experience ...

excerpt:

Quebec's model health-care system has been damaged severely by funding
cuts. In 2005, Canada's Supreme Court ruled that lack of timely access
to treatment in Quebec was serious enough that the province could no
longer prohibit private funding for medically necessary services.
Similar legal challenges are expected in the other provinces.

Unless the public system is resuscitated with a major transfusion of
funds, it's only a matter of time before private hospitals begin
servicing those who can pay to go to the front of the line.
Ironically, while Americans long for a Canadian-style medical system,
that system is disintegrating under the pressure of market forces.


Why ration medicine?

The capitalist class will pay anything to defend and extend its power.
No ceiling has been set on spending to win the war for Middle-East
oil. In contrast, there is fierce resistance to funding any services
for workers beyond the minimum required to keep them productive. As
the competition for capital increases, most governments are reducing
their investment in health, education and social services --robbing
the public sector to boost the profitability of the private sector. No
nation and no medical system are immune to the relentless drive for
profit.

The American medical system will be reformed. Ordinary people want
medical services. Business complains that the cost of medical benefits
is hurting their profits and global competitiveness; they want to
transfer these costs to the public sector. Because Americans pay
almost 90 percent more per-capita on medical care than Canadians do,
rationalizing the medical system would offer fantastic cost savings.
The real question is how it will be reformed.

The key demand is for affordable medical care. With almost 60 percent
of the American workforce making less than $15 an hour, affordable
care would have to be free. That shouldn't be a problem. A nation that
can find the money to pay for war can find the money to pay for
universal health care --in theory.

In practice, capitalism prioritizes cost-efficiency over human need by
"industrializing" social services. The work of medicine is dissected
into components that are individually priced and parceled out. The
profitable parts are handed to the private sector and the unprofitable
portions remain in the public realm or are abandoned altogether. While
applying industrial methods to medicine is cost-effective from a
business point of view, it fragments health care. Planning health
services to meet population needs and integrating prevention and
treatment, hospital and community care become impossible.

Winning HR 676 would be a definite step in the right direction.
However, we need to go further. Eliminating profit from the medical
system requires public financing and public delivery of services
(socialized medicine). More than that, all health and social services
must be provided as a human right --fully funded, fully integrated and
with no rationing. If capitalism cannot meet these basic needs, then
we need to construct a socialist society that can.

Dr. Susan Rosenthal has been practicing medicine for more than 30
years and has written many articles on the relationship between health
and human relationships. She is also the author of Striking Flint:
Genora (Johnson) Dollinger Remembers the 1936-1937 General Motors Sit-
Down Strike (1996) and Market Madness and Mental Illness: The Crisis
in Mental Health Care (1999) and Power and Powerlessness. She is a
member of the National Writers Union, UAW Local 1981. She can be
reached through her website: www.powerandpowerlessness.typepad.com
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